In this episode, Mark Groves sits down with the always-wise Kate Northrup for a heart-expanding, truth-bomb-filled convo that flips the script on how we think about money, success, and self-worth. Kate unpacks the surprisingly deep connection between your nervous system and your relationship with money—how the way you spend, save, or stress is often tied to how safe you feel in your body. They dive into the power of doing less, the myths of hustle culture, and how rest and regulation are the real keys to abundance. From motherhood and identity to healing old patterns and choosing aliveness over burnout, this one’s all about coming home to yourself—and rewriting the rules of what it means to live a rich life.
As an entrepreneur, bestselling author, and mother, Kate Northrup supports ambitious people to light up the world without burning themselves out. Kate teaches how to heal your relationship with money, time, and work. She’s the author of the bestsellers Money: A Love Story and Do Less, the creator of the Do Less Planner, and the host of the top ranking podcast, Plenty. Her work has been featured by The NY Times, Oprah Daily, The Today Show, Glamour, Harvard Business Review, and more. She lives with her husband/business partner and their two daughters in Miami.
0:00 Intro: Money’s impact on emotions and relationships
5:23 Nervous system’s role in our money mindset
16:14 Everyone struggles with money on some level
21:38 Kate’s 90-day experiment to change money habits
28:25 Overcoming financial shame through vulnerability
35:29 Finding joy despite challenging circumstances
41:24 Launching “Relaxed Money” after personal breakthroughs
46:37 Creating a personalized approach to financial healing
59:15 Distinguishing real emergencies from anxiety
1:04:28 Using technology to manage social media use
1:09:18 Healing from social media trauma and hypervigilance
1:11:24 Redefining abundance beyond financial terms
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