In this episode, Mark Groves dives deep into the intersection of health, personal sovereignty, and systemic deception with Brian Sanders, founder of the Sapien Center and creator of the “Food Lies” documentary series. Together, they peel back the layers of societal conditioning around nutrition, medicine, and authority—challenging the legitimacy of mainstream narratives about health, pharmaceutical intervention, and government control. Mark and Brian share personal awakenings that led them to reject hollow paradigms—from the food pyramid to pharma-driven healthcare—in favor of a return to foundational, ancestral principles of nourishment, movement, nature, and authentic community. With compelling anecdotes, sharp insights, and a powerful call to reclaim individual agency, this conversation is a radical invitation to question everything and live more intentionally, rooted in what it truly means to be human.
Brian Sanders is the filmmaker behind the Food Lies documentary, host of the top 5 nutrition podcast Peak Human, and an international speaker. He graduated from UCLA with a degree in Mechanical Engineering. He’s the founder of Sapien Center, a popular health club in Austin. He also works to spread the awareness of regenerative agriculture and increase access to well-raised animal products through his nationwide meat & body care company Nose to Tail.
0:00 Intro: Mark Groves introduces Brian Sanders
5:43 Brian’s journey to health awareness
16:51 Control systems in society and education
22:26 The appeal of shortcuts in health
33:25 Whole vs. hollow: food and relationships
47:44 Rethinking priorities and what truly matters
54:34 Living with awareness in corrupt systems
1:01:15 Closing remarks and where to find B
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