Today I’m honoured to welcome Terry Real back on the podcast. An internationally recognized family therapist, speaker, and author, and the founder of the Relational Life Institute (RLI), Real has worked with thousands of individuals, couples, and fellow therapists to help people create the connection they desire in relationships. His groundbreaking, bestselling book, I Don’t Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression, established him as one of the most respected voices in the treatment of men and male depression and his expertise on men’s mental health and relationship issues have been featured on Good Morning America, The Today Show, 20/20, The Oprah Winfrey Show and in The New York Times, among many others.

In his practice, Real works with couples on the brink of disaster; he sees how individualism and patriarchy poisons our most intimate relationships. The excellent news: warmer, closer, more passionate relationships are possible if you have the right tools. In Terry’s new book, US: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship, he shows people how to stop working on themselves as individuals and start working on their relationship as a couple.